The Secure CIO LIVE!
Off the back of a hugely successful Season One, we are taking The Secure CIO Podcast on the road for just one night! In Melbourne on 23 October 2019, you can be part of a LIVE recording of the final episode of Season 2! This one hour conversation between best-selling author, podcaster and company director of 27 Lanterns, Claire Pales, and UniSuper's Chief Delivery and Information Officer, Anna Leibel will cover next generation security teams, how leading a security team differs from other departments under the CIO, what boards need in relation to cyber and more.

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Join me, Claire Pales, as I chat with some of the cybersecurity industry’s greatest minds. Taking a page from my book ‘The Secure CIO’, the podcast features conversations about leadership, diversity, sourcing of great cyber security talent and opinions on the skills crisis. 

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Episode #10
Cohesive Teams
with David Jorm

David has been working in the tech industry for 20 years, with a focus on managing security teams for the last 7 years. His experience has spanned government, corporate, and startup environments in several countries.

During this episode, David will talk about the skills a CIO should be looking for if they want to advance a technical person into a leadership role. Learn the challenges of hiring and retaining staff including ways to building an effective team through diversity. Find out what you need to know about working with a third-party recruiter.

Episode #7
Security Leadership; Manager v Maker with Caroline Wong

Caroline Wong is the Chief Security Strategist at, a PTaaS platform that transforms yesterday's broken pen test model into a data-driven vulnerability management engine. Caroline is a dynamic cybersecurity expert with more than a decade of industry experience, including roles at eBay and Symantec.  

During this episode, Caroline will share how to transition from managing yourself to managing others. Learn to become a great security leader and encourage others to grow and lead. Match potential candidates with jobs that need to be filled, work with remote teams, and address compensation expectations.

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Episode #11
Skills, Capabilities and
Benchmarking with Louise Smith

Louise Smith is the Australian Computer Society director for workforce development and education. She is a business capabilities specialist with over 15 years of experience consulting on skills needs.

During this episode, Louise will discuss the SFIA Framework and its application to organizations. Find out how individuals can define their current skill set in the cybersecurity workforce. Learn if your organisation can benefit from a variety of skills and experience amongst your team.

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Episode #8
Lateral Career Moves
with Craig Templeton

Craig Templeton is CISO at REA Group Limited, a leading digital business specializing in property. With over 23 years experience in the security field, Craig sits on a number of Executive Board advisory committees, and participates in several cyber security start-up mentoring programs including CyRise.

During this episode, Craig will share how to attract and retain high caliber talent to your organization.
Learn what skills are needed to run a small business and what type of tasks to outsource.
Listen to the end for crucial advice for new startups in the industry.

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Episode #12
The Cybersecurity ‘Roles’ Crisis with Nick Ellsmore

Nick Ellsmore is Co-Founder of Hivint, and creator of cyber-security collaboration portal Security Colony. He previously co-founded SIFT and Stratsec, and has served on various boards and forums.

During this episode, Nick will share the component to selecting employees who will fit well in your organization. Find out how great leaders create and share a positive vision and successful team atmosphere. Learn the benefits of focusing on diversity in the workplace and what it takes to become a great Security Leader.

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Episode #9
Tuning In
with Karen Worstell

Karen Worstell is the CEO of W Risk Group, a Denver based cybersecurity consultancy focused on helping companies demonstrate due diligence to a defensible standard of care. Karen was previously the CEO of AtomicTangerine, as well as CISO at Microsoft Corporation, AT&T Wireless, and Russell Investments.

During this episode, Karen will share how leaders can build and cultivate a successful security team through her diversity and sourcing plans. Follow the core principles when building and aligning your security team. Learn how the ‘skills crisis’ is effecting hiring, and the impact the ‘Be an ally’ program.

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Episode #4
Establishing Essential Hiring Criteria with Jo McCatty

Jo McCatty is a recruitment leader with expertise across different sectors serving the UK, EU and APAC markets. Her key interest is driving success and delivery of outcomes through people, technology and change/transformation (aka ambiguity).

During this episode, Jo will share how to overcome the top challenges when hiring staff in cybersecurity including ways to build and grow your team. Learn the role diversity plays in your hiring and sourcing plans. Find out how leaders and employees should harness the power of mentorship for long term success.

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Episode #5
You Can’t Teach Attitude with Michelle Price

Michelle Price is the CEO at Aust Cyber, a company that supports the development of a vibrant and globally competitive cyber security sector. Before joining AustCyber, Michelle was the first Senior Adviser for Cyber Security at the National Security College within The Australian National University.
During this episode, Michelle will discuss the skills and qualities that employers must look for in security staff in order to build a truly successful team. Listen as she encourages others to increase diversity in the cyber security workforce and continue to inspire people with the possibilities of cyber innovation.

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Episode #6
Growing Teams From Scratch with Darren Argyle

Darren Argyle is the co-founder of Cyber Resilience. He has close to 20 years of international cyber risk and security experience, and was named in the top 100 Chief Information Security Officers globally in 2017 and the top 100 Global IT Security Influencers in 2018.

During this episode, Darren will share how to navigate the global skills crisis in search of experienced security team members. Learn when to utilise an outsourced model and when to work with permanent in-house hires. Listen for ways to overcome the biggest challenges in the cybersecurity space.

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Episode # 1
Security in Context
with Jonathan Werrett

During this episode, Jonathan will share core principles to follow when hiring and building a team in information security. Learn to find ideal leadership even when the talent pool is subpar and explore the importance diversity plays in the hiring process. Listen to the end to hear some of Jonathan's hardest lessons learned during his 15+ years in the industry.

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Episode # 2
Finding The Time to Find The Talent with Samm MacLeod

During this episode, Samm will bring light to the obstacles you may face when sourcing for security teams. Listen for her suggested immediate hiring needs and why you should strategically create employee longevity. Find out if the cybersecurity talent gap is really an industry crisis and how encouraging a diverse team of talented professionals may be the solution to a successful team.

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Episode # 3
Security Sourcing: Cracking the Code with Craig Searle

During this episode, Craig offers a unique perspective on the shortage of talent in the cybersecurity industry and ways to create a proper solution. Find out if we are losing potential in house professionals to cybersecurity startups. Learn the best practices for new hire onboarding and enable your team to succeed long term.

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